Some people say that my method of catching these fish is up for debate. However, it works. . . really good. . . Since I can only throw a heaver about 40 yards, I decided the better option was to simply leave my rod on the beach, put it in free spool, set the bait in my kayak, paddle it out a couple hundred yards and drop it off the side. The extra distance can make a huge difference. Ken and I headed up to give it a go last night with the super calm conditions. We had consistant action with runs about every 20 minutes. We missed alot of fish but we also caught a handful. It may not be the traditional way to catch these things, but it sure does work.